Help with information about demand for Linux certifications?

Cameron Milton cameron.milton at
Wed Oct 30 13:09:03 CST 2013

For me as a web developer and an administrator, I don't understand how
someone can develop for a platform and not really explore it. How can you
create something in elegant and works without potentially utilising the
platform it is running on.

For example the Apache(2) Access module or iptables is a much better for
filtering networks than writing your own php filtering with say regex

Whilst I have skills with
-drupal & wordpress

I also have working knowledge of
*n.b. this is just a small snapshot of my skill versatility.

Yet I'm finding it difficult to find a job at the moment, if a student is
serious about getting into the IT industry they shouldn't limit themselves
to what is required by a course.

On 30 October 2013 11:31, David Robson <david.robson at> wrote:

> Agreed.
> Diversity is also key, and learning how to learn. "...teach a man how to
> fish…" so to speak.
> Making diverse products work together is rewarding and makes you ask "how
> it works". Hence samba is a great choice.
> If I were to construct a lab to teach the skills I think we need, a Linux,
> Windows, and MacOS host would be minimum. Setup DNS, Samba, NFS and Apache
> on ALL of them grasshopper! :-)
> The other big one is Email. I hop from Sendmail, to Postfix, to Exchange,
> Zimbra as part of my work and yet I struggle to find people who understand
> the basics of what SMTP is. :-)
> On 30/10/2013, at 9:30 AM, Tomasz Grzegurzko <tomasz89 at> wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > On 30 October 2013 09:10, David Robson <david.robson at> wrote:
> >> what DNS is. Not much help if they can't do the basics…. ;-)
> >
> > That is where Linux is such a good learning tool. You can get to
> > understand the basics and it's applicable to all kinds of operating
> > systems and even completely 'alien' devices because they're all
> > actually made of the same essence.
> >
> >> On 29/10/2013, at 4:57 PM, Jackie Brooks <Jackie.Brooks at>
> >> The majority of the students have never used Linux before so we normally
> >> just cover the basics and some networking (basic Apache, BIND, NFS &
> dare I
> >> say Samba)
> >
> > That is a good way to begin, and indeed the way I started by setting
> > up a server at home to provide some essential services to a small LAN
> > with some real needs. At work, most of the grad students we got in
> > were required to install and set up their own machines, sometimes we
> > messed up the computer settings on purpose.. It was always an
> > interesting exercise.
> >
> > A procedure for an employer to test new staff was to somehow break the
> > Linux machine and see how the candidate would go about the problem.
> > They would do things like change the default boot device, erase
> > grub.cfg, make a start up service hang, mess up the root password,
> > delete the nameserver, the default gateway, broadcast address etc etc
> > then require you to install some package from the Internet. For any of
> > these problems, the layers of understanding are developed -- from core
> > boot procedures through to system administration and network
> > management.
> >
> > The theoretical knowledge only really glues when you can see the
> > practical application, at least I've found.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Tomasz
> >
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