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  From: Damien Byrne <damienbyrne@iprimus.com.au>
  To  : <linuxsa@linuxsa.org.au>
  Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2001 23:47:23 +1030

Re: Dodgy anti-linux tricks? - no

I gave it a go with Konqueror from KDE 2.2.1, with the user agent ID string 
set to:

Mozilla/5.0 (compatible; Konqueror/2.2.1; Linux 2.4.8-26mdk; X11; i686; 
en_US, en)

And I received this:

<QUOTE>

Thank you for visiting the Harvey Norman Web Site.

As Harvey Norman Web Site is designed to work with the minimum browsers of 
Netscape 4 and Internet Explorer 4 and we have detected that your browser is 
older than this not all of the site functionality will display on your 
current browser.

Harvey Noman values you as a customer and recommends that you download for 
FREE a newer version of Internet Explorer or Netscape Navigator.

Your current browser will still be able to use some of the sites functions so 
if you wish to view the site before downloading a new browser please click 
here.

Thank you for your time.

</QUOTE>

Hmmmm.  I'd say their "detection" of my browsers age is a little off.  
Although they were magnanimous enough to allow me to continue anyway, some 
sites don't even let you do that!

Damien

On Thu, 8 Nov 2001 11:28, Anthony Symons wrote:
> Although, real mozilla works fine, so perhaps they only serve to "known"
> browsers, and dont have opera listed or something? I guess its not as
> sinister as I first thought, just dodgy.
>
> Further checks, opera reporting mozilla 4.76 or 5. no debug, but error.
> opera reporting mozilla 3.0 - debug info (that says it works). I guess
> opera must be somehow lacking, and so is thier debug code :(
>
> Ant
>
> On Thu, 8 Nov 2001, Anthony Symons wrote:
> > Trying to access www.harveynorman.com.au with the browser ID set to
> > report opera:
> >
> > Error.
> > You cannot access the Harvey Norman web site as your browser does not
> > appear to be set to accept cookies.
> > Cookies are used on the web site so that we can provide you with the best
> > service and access to great discounts.
> > Otherwise, if your browser is configured to accept cookies, please try
> > closing and re-opening your browser and returning to the site.
> > You do not have to close your Internet connection.
> > We apologise for the inconvenience.
> > If this problem persists, please email us.
> >
> > But, set to report MSIE:
> >
> > Error.
> > You cannot access the Harvey Norman web site as your browser does not
> > appear to be set to accept cookies.
> > Cookies are used on the web site so that we can provide you with the best
> > service and access to great discounts.
> > Otherwise, if your browser is configured to accept cookies, please try
> > closing and re-opening your browser and returning to the site.
> > You do not have to close your Internet connection.
> > We apologise for the inconvenience.
> > If this problem persists, please email us.
> >
> >    The following is debug information. Quote this information in any
> > correspondance, to help us to help you:
> >    Client Browser is: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.0; Linux 2.4.13
> > i686) Opera 5.0  [en]. This browser is Cookies Capable.
> >    Trying to write a Persistant cookie .....
> >
> > No Errors writing the Persistant Cookie.
> >    Trying to read the Persistant cookie .....
> >
> >
> > No Errors reading the Persistant Cookie. Persistant Cookies are Enabled.
> >    Still having trouble, Reset Harvey Norman Cookies
> >    Trying to write a Session cookie .....
> >
> > No Errors writing the Session Cookie.
> >    Trying to read the Session cookie .....
> >
> > No Errors reading the Session Cookie. Session Cookies are Enabled.
> >
> >
> > How come:
> >
> > a) I only get debug info when I claim to be using MSIE?
> > b) The debug information says everything works fine?
> >
> > www.netcraft.com/whats says The site www.harveynorman.com.au is running
> > Microsoft-IIS/4.0 on NT4/Windows 98.
> >
> > Looks to me like a false failure when the word "linux" is detected as
> > your OS description, and then the debug info that shows it all really
> > works is hidden from non MSIE users...
> >
> > Ant
> >
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