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  From: Matthew Geddes <mgeddes@xavier.sa.edu.au>
  To  : Andrew Reid <andrew.reid@plug.cx>
  Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2001 09:28:55 +0930

Re: MS Curriculum at schools and TAFEs ...

Andrew Reid wrote:
> 
> On 23 Apr 2001 16:29:35 +0930, Jason Tan wrote:
> 
> > Well I cant see how that would be economical for most shchools who cant
> > afford  $1200 Pcs, let alone $20k servers and $1k thin clients.
> 
> What type of thin clients? I think you'll find that the SunRay's are
> quite cheap. Well under $1K. And the servers? Well, they're a lot more
> than $20K. That is, if we're talking Sun.

Sun are trying to do really good deals with schools at the moment. The
figures Mark Collis mentioned are accurate.

> > Ciriix migth be more affordable at least ahrdware wise, I am not sure what
> > the lsincesing cost for that would be.
> 
> Citrix, while with its uses is old and clunky. Citrix in a school must
> be like death by torture :-)
> 
> Citrx is not cheap by any stretch of the imagination. Not cheap enough
> for a school, anyway.

I think he was talking about Cyrix :-)

> $50/hour?! Damn cheap consultant for UNIX related stuff. A properly
> setup machine would only have to be rebooted and be fixed up in seconds.
> 
> A properly setup IT Infrastructure would have 1 or two 'ready made' PCs
> on a shelf. If a PC in the labs dies, pull it off the shelf and stick it
> in the lab. Fix the broken one and stick it on the shelf. It's really
> not that hard.
> 
> > A linux system is easy for you to adminsiter, but not so easy for an
> > average person or an average teacher, even an "IT coordinator".
> 
> NT isn't exactly a joy to work with either, you know. People struggle
> for days on end with NT configuration. I know that I could have got it
> done under Linux in about 1 hour.
> 
> It's a lot easier than you think. A person armed with Mandrake and an
> APC Linux PocketBook is well equipped for setting up Linux. Even for the
> first time.


And could be made even easier. I agree with the NT stuff you mentioned,
there are schools paying $100 an hour for NT/2K "Consultants" and
"Engineers" to drink coffee.

Matt

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