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  From: Mike O <mike@pineview.net>
  To  : Richard Sharpe <sharpe@ns.aus.com>
  Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2001 15:16:16 +1030

Re: ADSL & Primus

Hi

I would like to mention that from the two sites I have seen using iprimus, I
would say as far away from them as I could.

Cheers
    Mike


----- Original Message -----
From: "Richard Sharpe" <sharpe@ns.aus.com>
To: <drwho@firstlinux.net>; <linuxsa@linuxsa.org.au>
Sent: Friday, February 23, 2001 1:55 PM
Subject: Re: ADSL & Primus


> At 08:09 PM 2/22/01 -0800, Ian McLeod wrote:
> >Who are you going through?
>
> Starts with In...
>
> >You are right on a few points.  But Telstra did have a long time to
upgrade
> >their infrastructure.  A bit like the several billion dollars that never
> went
> >to roads.  There is no excuse for it whichever diplomatic way you look at
it.
>
> Telstra have always been like that, even when they were Telecom. They
still
> think they are a monopoly and that they can offer monopoly service (four
> letter word, starts with s) and reap monopoly profits.
>
> I have seen a Telecom salescritter stand up and tell a woman from New York
> that the Telecom system was better than that in the US, and this was back
> in the '80s.
>
> >I heard (I am willing to stand corrected if I am wrong) that Canada had
far
> >worse if not similar problems as far as quality infrastructure goes - yet
> they
> >seem to have got their act together.  Why are we so slow?
>
> Well, Lucent and all the other US providers operate in Canada.
>
> >--- Richard Sharpe <sharpe@ns.aus.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>At 09:27 PM 2/21/01 -0800, Ian McLeod wrote:
> >>>
> >>>They want me to sign a 12 month contract for '1.5Mbs' connection with
(at
> >>this
> >>>time unconfirmed) $300 yearly renewal fee at $135 / month.  I think a
12
> >>month
> >>>contract is unreasonable - 3-4 months would be fine.  I also do not own
> the
> >>>modem - I rent it for around $300 / year.
> >>
> >>With the exception of $300/year renewal, that does not seem to be much
> >>different to the others I have seen. Does it have a download limit.
> >>
> >>>I am wondering if ADSL is worth the bother at all considering the
> technology
> >>>has been available for a very long time now and is much cheaper in
other
> >>>countries ($30 / month in the USA I heard).
> >>
> >>Well, I was told by a reliable source today that he has just signed up
for
> >>a USD80/month plan that is 1.5Mb/s down and unlimited data rate. There
was
> >>also no install/sign/join fee, and on a business plan, they throw in a
> >>small aDSL router.
> >>
> >>However, given that aDSL has been going for longer in the US than here,
and
> >>the geater competition and market, I do not think you can really
compare.
> >>
> >>I have taken up a 1.5Mb/s aDSL link at around $139/month, and I can tell
> >>the difference. Download speeds of 80kB/s are great.
> >>
> >>I now have the WebGear Wireless kit (2Mb/s) with a Linux
gateway/firewall
> >>between us and the internet, and it is great. The wireless gear was very
> >>easy to set up. Everything needed is in the latest releases; in my case
I
> >>used Mandrake 7.2.
> >>
> >>>When I asked about Linux support or the willingness to provide
technical
> >>>informatiion if required (I made it clear time and time again that I am
> >>happy
> >>>to work things out myself if I just have the right techincal
informatin) -
> >>>Primus literally told me to get stuffed - they told me that I am on my
own
> >>>thank you very much.  All I was asking is if Primus uses standard
> protocols,
> >>>set up, etc, and if - I would be fine.
> >>
> >>Well, the ISP I am using is quite happy for me to use Linux or FreeBSD,
or
> >>anything. And, they even have people who know about Linux and FreeBSD.
> >>Someone called Mark, I believe.
> >>
> >>
> >>Regards
> >>-------
> >>Richard Sharpe, sharpe@ns.aus.com
> >>Samba (Team member, www.samba.org), Ethereal (Team member,
www.ethereal.com)
> >>Contributing author, SAMS Teach Yourself Samba in 24 Hours
> >>Author, Special Edition, Using Samba
> >
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> Regards
> -------
> Richard Sharpe, sharpe@ns.aus.com
> Samba (Team member, www.samba.org), Ethereal (Team member,
www.ethereal.com)
> Contributing author, SAMS Teach Yourself Samba in 24 Hours
> Author, Special Edition, Using Samba
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