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  From: Richard Russell <richardrussell@mail.com>
  To  : linuxsa <linuxsa@linuxsa.org.au>
  Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 00:01:33 +1030

RE: LinuxSA, Organisers and incorporation

> Richard Russell openned the following can of worms:

heh -- it's my forte :)

> >
> > IMHO, it's time.
>
> I agree.  It's probably time.
>
> But... :-) we need to realise that incorporation means covering
> our backsides
> with insurance.  This will mean we need $$$.  This means we need
> to have the
> concept of membership and membership fees.

yes

>
> And if we have membership fees then people like Compaq may want
> something for
> using their place every month, Netcraft might want something for

so be it -- they may also like to sponsor us financially...

> hosting the web
> page and mailing lists, AUUG may see us as a competitor and be

ditto for netcraft

> less likely to
> help us out like they did last year, and if this is the case what

hmm... I don't think AUUG competition will be a problem...

> of the issue
> of open vs closed mailing lists?  What benefits do members get?
> ie why should I
> pay $$$ when I can come to meetings, participate on the mailing
> list etc without

This is what needs talking about -- maybe we should look at other LUGs...
but IMHO, a quasi-voluntary system could work -- you can participate in all
but voting...

> joining?  Do we _really_ want to go down this path?

IMHO, yes. I know there are positives and negatives, but I think the
positives outweigh the negatives...

> > We should incorporate well before Installfest, have some
> transparent, clear
> > and active leadership, and continue on our merry way.
>
> Do we _need_ such formalisation (besides insurance) to hold an
> installfest?  I
> don't think so.  Afterall Richard, you did a _great_ job last year!

it wasn't easy. We don't need it, but it would help... it would also help
with a number of other issues that have cropped up in the last months...

>
> > Comments? (particularly from those on the "organisers" list -- who is on
> > there now?)...
>
> I'd guess that Geoffrey, Matthew [Tippett] and probably Alex are
> on the list.

any comment from the organisers?

>
> > rr
> >
> > PS: Personally, I think that Geoffery and co have done (and are doing) a
> > great job, but I think it's time this group became an
> independant entity, so
> > that certain things (mailing lists, InstallFests, lobbying) can
> happen more
> > efficiently.
>
> Are things so bad now?  LinuxSA works for me right now.  Not to

no, but IMHO, it's time to chnage :)

> say that I'm
> against formalising our merry little band, but there are cons as
> well as pros.

yes...

> Oh well, here probably comes a long discussion, and it wasn't
> even started by
> David or Alan :-)

yes :)

rr

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