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  From: Mike Lindner <alloy@smug.adelaide.edu.au>
  To  : Simon Hackett <simon@internode.com.au>
  Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2001 10:17:59 +1030 (CST)

Re: AOL? or best ISP

even if you do include music, which (i hear:) averages about 4 megs a piece,
500 mbs is still a hellovalot.  'a porn addict' as someone else put it
would also have to be a complete w#nker (get it?:) to download 500 megs of
it a month, sheesh, a one megabyte jpeg is a bloody detailed and big picture.

perhaps we are really talking about software pirates here, if you were
downloading images of cd-roms, _then_ you'd exceed the 500mb i guess.

ml



On Tue, 23 Jan 2001, Simon Hackett wrote:

> How about 750 Mb/Mth?
> 
> Assuming we're talking about a modem, frankly, 500Mb is typically 
> 'enough' (and our dialup accounts don't currently run on a 500 Mb 
> limit, our 'flat rate' option is 250 Mb included) but I've been 
> thinking over the merits of raising it -somewhat- as the compromise 
> to solve that previously discussed issue (how to avoid -most- people 
> seeing an excess bill -most- of the time).
> 
> Frankly, a modem is good for about 10 MB's an hour flat out - so 
> you're saying that 'anyone' could easily spend > 50 hours per month 
> running their modem flat out downloading stuff - not casually 
> surfing, but balls-to-the-wall downloading - but without downloading 
> games or music or the like? Something in that scenario doesn't 
> wash...!
> 
> i.e. lets postulate that such a 'typical' person logs in 5 nights out 
> of 7 (say 20 nights per month), that's the equivalent of about 2.5 
> hours downloading flat out, or (say) 5 hours downloading at a 50% 
> duty cycle.
> 
> Not much of a social life in there, eh? Then again, perhaps members 
> of this list are a-typical in respect of their pursuit of a social 
> life :) :)
> 
> Cheers,
> Simon
> 
> At 8:51 PM +1030 22/1/01, steve wrote:
> >  >
> >  > The true loss leader is the Dingo Blue $25 account, no argument
> >  > there. However, loss leaders eventually stop (either their losses or
> >  > leading).
> >  >
> >  > If you can make hay in the meantime, good luck to you (modulo your
> >  > guilt factor supporting random unknown multinationals rather than
> >  > happy local businesses :) )
> >  >
> >My concious suitably knowing at me, man I feel like a crook ;-)
> >
> >Actually I had intended to finish on my last note, but you seemed sincere in
> >getting feedback on the price structure.
> >
> >Sure I'd like to use a local business, internode would be great, now the need:
> >Price you have set, fine
> >Service you provide, great
> >Local business super.
> >
> >DOWNLOAD ....l 500mb nope sorry. I do not d/l games, music or the like, but
> >anyone could very easily run over 500.  To be realistic 1000mb would cover me
> >and then some, my kids could play games I could update my progs and surf
> >without fear of extra costs.
> >
> >If you raised the mb I could live comfortably with everything else.
> >
> >Best wishes
> >
> >Steve
> >
> >
> >And its good to have you contributing to the list
> >
> >
> >Steve
> >
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> 
> ---
> Simon Hackett, Technical Director, Internode Systems Pty Ltd
> 31 York St [PO Box 284, Rundle Mall], Adelaide, SA 5000 Australia
> Email: simon@internode.com.au  Web: http://www.on.net
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