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  From: Darryl Ross <dross@syc.asn.au>
  To  : Nick Stoic <nstoic@bigpond.com>
<hart@dotat.com> Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2000 20:42:58 +1030

Re: ADSL Enabled Exchange Areas: Updated 20/11/2000

Hey Nick,

At SYC we have had an ADSL link since it first became available in August (I
was just about checking the Telstra website hourly around then... Needless
to say, we managed to get our order in before anyone else did :)

We are running NAT on a linux machine which is connecting 5 offices at 4
different sites to the service. I decided to run the Roaring Penguin PPPoE
client, which from what I can make out is one of the better ones. I would
have to agree with that comment too. I downloaded the RedHat RPM, installed
it, ran `adsl-setup`, followed the prompts and then ran `adsl-start` and we
were online.

Ping time between our machine and pretty much any ISP in Adelaide I've
pinged is between 40 and 90ms, which is a _little_ bit better than a modem
:) considering that all our data goes over to Melbourne and back. That's
about the only thing I've noticed, Telstra route all the ADSL stuff back to
Vic for some reason (either that, or they have .vic.telstra.net addresses
for their gateway addresses in SA!). Here's a traceroute to
www.linuxsa.org.au:

Via our Telstra ADSL link:

[dross@adsl-gw dross]$ /usr/sbin/traceroute www.linuxsa.org.au
traceroute to www.linuxsa.org.au (203.16.230.115), 30 hops max, 40 byte
packets
 1  172.31.28.3 (172.31.28.3)  13.054 ms  12.659 ms  15.496 ms
 2  CPE-61-9-128-145.vic.bigpond.net.au (61.9.128.145)  22.492 ms  22.805 ms
22.320 ms
 3  CPE-61-9-129-5.vic.bigpond.net.au (61.9.129.5)  22.516 ms  22.844 ms
22.350 ms
 4  202.12.157.8 (202.12.157.8)  23.100 ms  24.169 ms  21.065 ms
 5  fastethernet4-1-0.win4.Melbourne.telstra.net (139.130.61.117)  40.047 ms
23.038 ms  21.845 ms
 6  203.50.78.130 (203.50.78.130)  22.156 ms  22.528 ms  22.125 ms
 7  GigabitEthernet4-0.lon-core3.Melbourne.telstra.net (203.50.77.17)
23.296 ms  22.706 ms  23.083 ms
 8  Pos2-0.way-core3.Adelaide.telstra.net (203.50.6.66)  32.332 ms  30.864
ms  30.741 ms
 9  Fddi0-0.way1.Adelaide.telstra.net (139.130.237.227)  31.402 ms  32.880
ms  31.019 ms
10  camtech.lnk.telstra.net (139.130.3.134)  33.090 ms  35.065 ms  32.906 ms
11  netcraft-gw.camtech.net.au (203.23.145.197)  38.057 ms  34.847 ms
34.228 ms
12  eth0.core1.adelaide.netcraft.com.au (203.16.230.97)  51.904 ms  49.873
ms  48.955 ms
13  eth0.core1.adelaide.netcraft.com.au (203.16.230.97)  51.730 ms !X *
45.750 ms !X

And via our SeNET 56K modem link:

[dross@boss dross]$ /usr/sbin/traceroute www.linuxsa.org.au
traceroute to www.linuxsa.org.au (203.16.230.115), 30 hops max, 40 byte
packets
 1  net-central.senet.com.au (203.11.90.6)  116.157 ms  111.644 ms  109.919
ms
 2  fiber-gw.senet.com.au (203.56.239.253)  109.893 ms  107.732 ms  109.904
ms
 3  serial-3-1.nero.camtech.net.au (203.23.145.57)  109.940 ms  108.056 ms
109.895 ms
 4  fastethernet-2-0-4.rome.camtech.net.au (203.23.145.61)  109.922 ms
124.332 ms  109.917 ms
 5  netcraft-gw.camtech.net.au (203.23.145.197)  119.948 ms  126.769 ms
119.920 ms
 6  eth0.core1.adelaide.netcraft.com.au (203.16.230.97)  119.910 ms  116.741
ms  119.915 ms
 7  eth0.core1.adelaide.netcraft.com.au (203.16.230.97)  129.884 ms !X *
120.028 ms !X

And a traceroute to freshmeat.net [1]:

[dross@adsl-gw dross]$ /usr/sbin/traceroute freshmeat.net
traceroute to freshmeat.net (64.28.67.35), 30 hops max, 40 byte packets
 1  172.31.28.3 (172.31.28.3)  15.840 ms  14.605 ms  14.316 ms
 2  CPE-61-9-128-145.vic.bigpond.net.au (61.9.128.145)  22.954 ms  22.677 ms
22.012 ms
 3  CPE-24-192-2-9.vic.bigpond.net.au (24.192.2.9)  24.881 ms  23.059 ms
CPE-61-9-129-5.vic.bigpond.net.au (61.9.129.5)  22.456 ms
 4  202.12.157.71 (202.12.157.71)  24.092 ms  23.318 ms  22.957 ms
 5  GigabitEthernet4-0-0.lon5.Melbourne.telstra.net (139.130.49.33)  23.327
ms  22.799 ms  21.459 ms
 6  GigabitEthernet3-0.lon-core3.Melbourne.telstra.net (139.130.239.246)
22.494 ms  23.292 ms  23.045 ms
 7  Pos2-0.way-core3.Adelaide.telstra.net (203.50.6.66)  31.430 ms  30.145
ms  30.645 ms
 8  GigabitEthernet1-0.way-core4.Adelaide.telstra.net (203.50.117.18)
31.405 ms  31.246 ms  30.193 ms
 9  Pos2-1.wel-core4.Perth.telstra.net (203.50.6.94)  59.533 ms  58.961 ms
58.559 ms
10  GigabitEthernet5-0.wel-core3.Perth.telstra.net (203.50.113.29)  59.717
ms  59.683 ms  59.999 ms
11  GigabitEthernet4-0.wel-gw1.Perth.telstra.net (203.50.113.18)  58.497 ms
61.529 ms  60.008 ms
12  205.174.75.69 (205.174.75.69)  314.635 ms  315.270 ms  314.112 ms
13  * 166.49.228.4 (166.49.228.4)  331.730 ms  322.326 ms
14  ibr02-p3-1.sntc01.exodus.net (209.185.249.161)  319.751 ms  322.269 ms
325.718 ms
15  bbr02-g6-0.sntc01.exodus.net (216.33.147.36)  322.195 ms  319.093 ms
321.217 ms
16  bbr01-p2-0.tkwl01.exodus.net (216.32.132.13)  336.529 ms  335.100 ms
340.508 ms
17  bbr02-g4-0.tkwl01.exodus.net (216.34.64.164)  343.928 ms  340.539 ms
338.514 ms
18  bbr02-p2-0.sttl01.exodus.net (216.32.132.121)  339.197 ms  336.223 ms
338.441 ms
19  bbr01-p0-0.okbr01.exodus.net (216.32.132.90)  393.181 ms  390.497 ms
394.715 ms
20  bbr02-g1-0.okbr01.exodus.net (216.34.183.66)  390.255 ms  393.165 ms
392.702 ms
21  bbr01-p5-0.wlhm01.exodus.net (216.32.132.210)  401.372 ms  398.941 ms
400.391 ms
22  dcr04-g2-0.wlhm01.exodus.net (64.14.70.66)  418.658 ms  402.176 ms
400.018 ms
23  64.14.80.138 (64.14.80.138)  402.178 ms  401.111 ms  411.436 ms
24  64.28.66.204 (64.28.66.204)  406.771 ms  409.345 ms  412.758 ms
25  freshmeat.net (64.28.67.35)  413.710 ms  405.690 ms  404.800 ms

What's with the unreachable messages for Netcraft? Oh well, in any case, you
can see the point that I am trying to make :) The ADSL is a little bit
faster!

Darryl

--

Darryl Ross
Network and System Administrator
Service to Youth Council, Inc
http://www.syc.asn.au/

"Computers are like air conditioners. They work fine until you open
Windows."


[1] Bearing in mind that this is during Telstra's "Singapore Outage", so I
am not too sure about the current state of their routing [2]...

[2] However, when is Telstra's routing ever correct....

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