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  From: Robyn Manning <robynman@dove.net.au>
  To  : Paul Kuhn Esq. <paulk@senet.com.au>
  Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2000 17:14:13 +1030

Re: Two Samba courses in Adelaide: 17-Feb and 18-Feb

Your shameless abuse of Richard and others is disgusting and childish to
say the least and yes I'm replying publicly so others can see this too.
I have received help from Richard and other regular contributors on this
mailing list. I've even taken my machine to a meeting where I received
some help, even though my questions were trivial to an experienced user
they were taken seriously and answered well.

Robyn Manning


"Paul Kuhn Esq." wrote:
> 
> May I just enquire something here?  I >>THOUGHT<<  LinuxSA, is a USER group.
> My recollection of USER groups is to assist one another in the special
> interest that we each have, in this case, Linux.  So...  I thinks to mesself
> as I do, why don't we run our own NON-PROFIT course for our "members"?  This
> commercial stuff is all very nice if you have company backing and/or can
> charge it to your customer base.. but that means that there becomes those of
> us who have, and the other those of us who will never have..
> 
> Mark Newton wrote:
> 
> > On Sat, Jan 22, 2000 at 01:09:14AM +1030, Adam Crawford wrote:
> >
> >  > That counts me out.
> >  > almost the same price as the other linux course that was in this list
> >  > resently
> >  > $1995 for 5 days.. $399 a day.
> >
> > Yeah, so what do you expect?  Training isn't cheap to do.  Look at
> > courses from commercial UNIX vendors and note that they're given at
> > between $700 and $1000 per day.
> >
> >
> 
> Yes, that's all very nice for those of you to whom money is no object, but why
> are you advertising, and at the same time trying your damndest to justify the
> cost, on a USER group mailing, when it it obvious that you have no intention
> of helping those in this user group?  Your fees are obviously "proffessional"
> but your approach is not.
> 
> SO, I throw down the gauntlet.  Make it available, by other means if
> neccessary, to us mere mortals, or get off the mailing list.  I will go so far
> as to say those of you out there who ARE interested in learning about Linux
> (but don't have the means to pay for a "proffessional" course - (you could go
> and do a MSCE for about the same.. and have a "guaranteed" job at the end of
> it!!)) Let me know directly and if I get enough interest I will investigate
> further to see what resources I can pull together to make our OWN course
> happen.  However, I can only do this in Adelaide, so I apologise to people
> from elsewhere for missing out.
> 
> I BET we, as a group, could run a course too.  The User group meetings are a
> great way to get info and see how things work, but a "course" would cover the
> required topics in an ordelerly manner to ensure nothing was missed and of
> course would do it in a shorter time frame.  The user groups meetings are but
> once a month which means it would take a year or so to cover the "basics".
> (I'M  >>NOT<< bagging the user group meetings at all, just suggesting there
> may be another way to do this.)
> 
> I have already mapped out a multi-stage course for Linux training, as I have
> had this in mind for quite a while.  I am sickened by the few people on here
> who think they are just so o o oo  good and therefore expect the rest of us to
> pay up or shutup because THEY are PROFESSIONALS.  I say Bah, Phooey to  you.
> Get off your high horses and come down to user group (human being) level.
> 
> There, I've finally said it.
> 
> Even so, best reagrds to the Linux community,
> PaulK.
> 
> paulk@senet.com.au
> 
> >     - mark
> >
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