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  From: Jacob kriek <jacob_kriek@msn.com.au>
  To  : <iorsa.nickm@lynx.net.au>, "'Linux SA' <iorsa.nickm@lynx.net.au>
  Date: Thu, 6 May 1999 19:15:19 +0930

Re: DNS/hostname & lUser problems..

Welllll...I think ( too) it is good to have cover from high-level input
 tech-penquins] they are a blessing. AND interestant will be to hear about
experienced go-arounds (experiment- penquins-combiners) the web servers may
be (gateway-penquins) BUT also the just starters (with or without
intellect-training...or pensioners already..(struggle-penquins) It all
depend on what is good commercial or what is good entertainment. What am I
saying ???? .......Bey for now.(swiming in my penquin-pool) Where is my
how-too   nowwww?
----- Original Message -----
From: Nick Morrison <iorsa.nickm@lynx.net.au>
To: 'Linux SA' <linuxsa@linuxsa.org.au>
Sent: Thursday, May 06, 1999 12:58 PM
Subject: RE: DNS/hostname & lUser problems..


> > Thanks Toby I accept your criticism as a new user, maybe I am not as
> > intellectually gifted as you, But I would expect as Linux gains in
> > popularity you are going to be irritated as hell at the stupid questions
> > people ask. So may be an alternate mailing list is a good idea!
>
> Hello :)
>
> The main concern here, I think, and please correct me if I'm wrong, is
that
> some people are using this list as an easy way out, and not doing any of
> their own research.  I don't think that it's a stab at anyone's gift of
> intellectualism.
>
> I most definitely agree that there should possibly be another, seperate,
> LinuxSA mailing list, called NewbieLinuxsaSA, or something equally catchy,
> which could accomodate the less technical questions.  Any questions that
go
> above the heads of NewbieLinuxSA could be refered to LinuxSA, which could
be
> renamed ProLinuxSA to fall in line with the new standard I've proposed.
> (please laugh..)
>
> It's a whole lot more satisfying answering a question that relates to your
> approximate level of experience.. not that answering "simpler" questions
is
> not satisfying.. so a seperate list would probably benefit all round.
>
> Hands up who agrees!  *sticks hand up*
>
> Feel free to flame me relentlessly if you don't agree.  8|
>
> My 2c.
>
>
> --
> Nick Morrison
> iorsa.nickm@lynx.net.au
>
>
>
> >
> > >----------
> > >From: Toby Corkindale[SMTP:tjcorkin@steadycom.com.au]
> > >Sent: Thursday, 6 May 1999 11:03
> > >To: Neil Ridley
> > >Cc: 'Linux SA'
> > >Subject: Re: DNS/hostname & lUser problems..
> > >
> > >There's a nice set of HOWTOs for all this.
> > >cd /usr/doc/HOWTO
> > >
> > >and check out the Networking-Overview, the NET-3-HOWTO, and the
> > >PPP-HOWTO, and the ISP-Hookup-HOWTO. It's probably worth reading the
> > >IPCHAINS-HOWTO as well.
> > >
> > >Just skim read through those, and you'll gain a massive understanding
> > >about how everything works. If you ever have a question, there's
usually
> > >a howto or faq that has the answers.
> > >
> > >It'd be nice if the mailling list was used for things that aren't
> > >already covered in the documentation. Tracking down bugs, fixes for
said
> > >bugs, generating new ideas, brainstorming over complex problems....
> > >
> > >Instead, the list these days seems to have become more like a "Help -
> > >I've just installed linux, I don't understand Unix, and I'm too lazy to
> > >read the masses of documentation, or at least figure it out for myself.
> > >Can someone set my PC up for me so I can get online and use netscape
and
> > >read email?"
> > >
> > >This isn't particularly directed at you Neil, just some people on this
> > >list in general.
> > >Someone was even asking "how do I view a file and make it stop on every
> > >page?" a few days ago.
> > >'more' is a command that's fairly universal. If you don't even know
> > >about it, maybe people should consider buying a book on the subject of
> > >Unix. There are many fine ones out there.
> > >Redhat even came with one in the boxed form, from what I recall.
> > >
> > >Linux people tend to be sharing caring folks, unlike MSCEs who usually
> > >want upwards of $100/hr for their time. However, I'm sure even the most
> > >dedicated Advocate will eventually tire of answering the same basic
> > >questions over and over.
> > >That's what FAQs (Frequently Asked Questions (including Answers)) are
> > >there for.
> > >HOWTO's are there for when you want to know HOW TO do something.
> > >
> > >Anyone want to write a auto-responder for the mailling list, that scans
> > >thru the question-posts, and tried to determine what it is about, and
> > >then locates appropriate HOWTO and FAQ s that are relevant, and replies
> > >with a:
> > >"
> > >RTFM: /usr/doc/HOWTO/ISP-Hookup
> > >RTFM: /usr/doc/FAQ/txt/PPP-FAQ
> > >"
> > >message?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >Now there's some flame bait for you.
> > >
> > >Yours,
> > >Toby
> > >
> > >
> > >Neil Ridley wrote:
> > >>
> > >> I have added an 10/100 Nic card to my PC to run a small
> > Network (2 pc's)
> > >> for learning purposes. However I need to be able also to connect to
my
> > >> ISP. I am logging into my ISP however there are DNS problems, cannot
> > >> resolve addresses
> > >> for http and for my email account. I use RedHat 5.2 and the Control
> > >> Panel in X to configure my Network and PPP properties... I have
called
> > >> my PC ".SIS"  192.168.0.0 in Hosts and I also still have the loopback
> > >> 172.0.0.1. entry in Hostnames. I also have the ipaddresss for my ISP
> > >> with the Domain NAME www.blah.com.au..
> > >>
> > >> Is an ISP ipaddress compulsory when connecting to an ISP through
Linux?
> > >> Because when I log in through windows I dont require anything
> > except for
> > >> the phone number, username & password.
> > >>
> > >> Does some one know what is required here?
> > >>
> > >> Regards
> > >>
> > >> Neil Ridley..
> > >>
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> > >--
> > >..I started out with nothing...and I still have most of it left
> > >
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