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  From: Nick Morrison <iorsa.nickm@lynx.net.au>
  To  : <n.ridley@SACBH.com.au>, "'Linux SA' <n.ridley@SACBH.com.au>
  Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 14:50:50 +0930

RE: Opinions on new Internet Bill (while I am still allowed to express them)

The thing I like most about this thread is the way the subject line is
gradually being refined :)

LOL

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Nick
iorsa.nickm@lynx.net.au

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Neil Ridley [mailto:n.ridley@SACBH.com.au]
> Sent: Thursday, 27 May 1999 2:27
> To: 'Linux SA'
> Subject: RE: Opinions on New Internet Bill (While I am still allowed to
> express them)
>
>
>
> Fine, we will just start another Network, "We can call it Air Net or
> something like that".
>
>
> NEIL RIDLEY
> n.ridley@sacbh.com.au
>
> >----------
> >From: 	O'Connor, Steven[SMTP:Steven.O'Connor@boral.com.au]
> >Sent: 	Thursday, 27 May 1999 11:41
> >To: 	'linuxsa@linuxsa.org.au'
> >Subject: 	Opinions on New Internet Bill (While I am still
> allowed to express
> >them)
> >
> >
> >It will be very interesting to see what sort of 'content' the
> powers-that-be
> >declare to be offensive ....
> >
> >Consider these points (presented in no particular order)
> >
> >- During the Vietnam War, things went very wrong for 'The System' mainly
> >because of open reporting.
> >
> >- By the time that the Gulf war came around, the media
> representation of the
> >war was very much back under the control of 'The System'
> >
> >- Closely followed by Somalia, we even had cameras and film
> crews all setup
> >on the beaches BEFORE the troops turned up.
> >
> >- Now with Yugoslavia who knows what is going on - we get 'ameteur video'
> >shots of Serbian tanks driving around quite clearly in the open,
> and yet the
> >USAF seems intent on blowing up bridges, refugee columns, and
> water storage
> >facilities ... huh ? The only media that we get is straight from the US
> >Ministry of Truth.
> >
> >- Yugoslavian radio stations, satellite relays, and internet broadcast
> >capabilities have been targetted very agressively by NATO (while
> the Serbian
> >tanks are free to roam the countryside). - huh ?
> >
> >- An article in the age
> >(http://www.theage.com.au/daily/990523/news/news3.html) shows how 'The
> >System' has admitted that all comms into and out of this country
> are tapped
> >and scanned, and analysed by computers. (Purely to protect the Australian
> >people from anti-social elements, of course)
> >
> >- We have Mr Gates virtually buying AT&T in the US, to own the
> >infrastructure for comms over there, and now he is making a big move on
> >Deutsche Telekom, to own the European comms and cable internet
> >infrastructure.
> >
> >- Bill Clinton ..  Big mover & shaker, or pawn of 'The System' ? Whatever
> >the case, whoever controls the Media certainly had the power to
> put him in
> >there in the first place (remember those pathetic im-promptu
> performances on
> >the saxaphone ?), and will certainly have the power to decide
> whether or not
> >he stays or goes. Look at the procession of 'electees' in the
> USA - Reagan
> >(actor), Jesse Ventura (WWF Wrestler / Actor) , etc, etc. If Bill Clinton
> >does not toe the line, who will be next ? Leonardo DiCaprio ?,
> Tom Cruise ?
> >Bill Gates ?  .... dont laugh too loud, just wait and see whats coming.
> >
> >- Australia, home base for US signals intelligence, rushes a law
> through the
> >parliment that effectively gives 'The System' enormous powers of control
> >over the internet in this country, all under the guise of 'protecting the
> >people'. What exactly does this Bill achieve - does it protect
> children from
> >porn and dissident opinion ? - No, not at all. We know that, and
> They know
> >that. What we all know, is that within a very short time of this Bill
> >becoming law, virtually every ISP in this country will be
> technically guilty
> >of an offense under the act. Will there be prosecutions ? - NO,
> NO, and NO
> >again. The System will not be interested in charging anyone
> under the act.
> >It will appear as if it was a big fizzer, and life will go on as
> normal, in
> >fact, every unpunished offence that goes by each day gives Them more
> >leverage when the time comes to act.
> >
> >The Future :
> >
> >This is how I reckon it will pan out :
> >
> >- The first people to go down will be ISP's who offer extended
> services like
> >building intranets and other applications for customers. These
> first victims
> >will be non-Microsoft shops who for one reason or another, are
> not helping
> >Mr Gates in his cause. Lets call this company XYZ Pty. Ltd. The issues at
> >hand will be about market share, and control of technology. XYZ
> Pty Ltd will
> >be building and hosting sites using standard protocols, whereas
> MS will be
> >asking that they convert everything to COM / ActiveX /
> Office-2000 / MS-XML.
> >XYZ P/L's products and services will be competing very nicely in
> the market.
> >One day, XYZ P/L will go too far, and produce some plugin or other that
> >allows netscape to view IIS-6 pages, or allows Samba to mount an NTFS-2
> >drive.
> >
> >- The first thing that the masses will see of this will be a show-trial,
> >mostly on TV. Suddenly, several years worth of log files will be dragged
> >out, showing a collection of smut and offensive material that has passed
> >through XYZ P/L's servers. The simple fact that those same downloads may
> >have passed through BigPond, ninemsn.com.au, etc, on their way
> to XYZ P/L's
> >proxy server will be ignored completely by the prosecution. Every TV news
> >report will cover the exact same story - showing lurid pictures of half
> >dressed ladies, throw in a snippet of some 'youth' taking a
> drink out of a
> >Vodka bottle at a Marilyn Manson concert, toss in a picture of a web page
> >bearing a swastika, and point the big ugly finger of guilt all
> at XYZ Pty.
> >Ltd.  'Here is an example of the sort of filth that these monsters at XYZ
> >Pty. Ltd. have been pushing on our children'.
> >
> >- The masses will be only too happy to see XYZ go down, and have their
> >customer base moved over to someone safer, like ninemsn.com.au
> for example.
> >
> >
> >- Over time, there will be no more ISP's as we know them. They
> will either
> >become branch offices of MSN, investing big bucks to bring all their
> >operations into line with the MS-way, or face the consequences.
> The ultimate
> >consequence will be to be hauled up before the media as a 'Drug peddling,
> >rascist, paedophile'.
> >
> >- Once this experiment has been successful in this country, expect to see
> >other countries adopt the same model.
> >
> >- Will there ever be a prosecution against msn.com.au ? ... what do you
> >reckon ?      If we all ran background processes to anonymously pull porn
> >and offensive material through msn 24 hours a day, and reported
> all of the
> >downloads to the media, do you think that there will be any
> mention of it at
> >all ? - I dont think so.
> >
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