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From: Airlink IT <it@airlink.com.pg>
To : pauls@caemrad.com.au
Date: Thu, 25 Mar 1999 14:09:01 +1000
Linux Telnet and Win 98
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Thanks Paul.
You were spot on. hdc5 did the trick.
I looked for a description of these assignments in the online =
documentation
but couldn't find any. Do you know where the description of all these =
hdc
types is hidden.
Also ...I sent the following to geoffrey@netcraft.com.au before I =
figured out how to send mail to the group. (The NET is new in PNG)
=20
" I run the computer systems at Airlink in PNG where we have both SCO =
Unix and NT servers (Compaq) and the end users use Telnet to run our =
Unix accounting system from PC's running Win 95. Nothing new here. I =
have just installed RedHat Linux on one box on a trial basis and so far =
so good. In fact it's so easy to install I think I would rather have =
Linux than SCO, and may change over in the near future.
=20
Now my problem is this. I want to be able to launch apps on the Linux or =
SCO boxes from the windows environment. To achieve this I would like to =
have my Win app create a Telnet session on the server and then issue the =
required commands to initiate reports etc. I have tried to use the =
Winsock control that comes with Visual Basic but when I connect to port =
23 on the server, it responds with hieroglyphics. Of course if I knew =
what to expect and what Linux expected in return, I could solve the =
problem.=20
=20
So, if you know a systems programmer who has an in-depth knowledge of =
the Telnet protocol, I would be grateful if you could put me in touch. I =
should add that I am not trying to write a complete terminal =
emulator..just a simple logon ...issue command and logoff. =20
The main reason for all this is that I use ODBC links via AcuODBC and =
AcuServer to access very large data files on the server and the whole =
thing is far too slow. If I could run a native AcuCobol application =
under Unix to filter the data and create a temporary table with the =
result set, and then use the ODBC connection on the smaller table, the =
system would be far more responsive. I develop quite a lot of =
specialised Windows software for the firm but have no experience in =
developing under Unix.=20
=20
Any help you can offer will be greatly appreciated."=20
David Hughes
Airlink PNG
=20
PS : Our AcuCobol system was developed by TABS Computer Systems in =
Adelaide. They are very good at Cobol but unable to help with the =
underlying systems.
=20
AND For those of you who love to slate Windows. I have a dual boot =
system at home with Win 98 and Linux installed. There is no doubt that =
Linux is fast, but when you run X on Linux, the performance is =
miserable. Ok .You say "Linux is a server operating system and you can't =
compare oranges with bananas", Well... That's just the point I am =
making. Linux is a server system and should not be compared with end =
user systems. Attempts to do so display a lack of understanding or =
appreciation of the reasons why we have different operating systems. I =
expect that the global end-users community will all switch to Linux when =
X is faster than Win 9x and when they can get WinfaxPro, Word, Kai's =
Power Goo, and all the other creature comforts they now enjoy under =
Windows. It must be said, in it's favour, that Linux has gone much =
further than any other Unix in giving people what they want, and will =
probably ultimately succeed. Having cut my teeth on macro and Fortran, =
25 years ago, I am only too happy to use Visual Basic or any other =
integrated visual development environment and will take the plunge when =
such tools are available on Linux.
Standing by for the onslaught.
=20
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<DIV>Thanks Paul.<BR><BR>You were spot on. hdc5 did the trick.<BR><BR>I =
looked=20
for a description of these assignments in the online =
documentation<BR>but=20
couldn't find any. Do you know where the description of all these =
hdc<BR>types=20
is hidden.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Also ...I sent the following to <A=20
href=3D"geoffrey@netcraft.com.au">mailto:geoffrey@netcraft.com.au">geoffrey@netcraft.com.au</A> =
before I=20
figured out how to send mail to the group. (The NET is new in PNG)</DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>" </FONT><FONT size=3D2>I run =
the computer=20
systems at Airlink in PNG where we have both SCO Unix and NT servers =
(Compaq)=20
and the end users use Telnet to run our Unix accounting system from PC's =
running=20
Win 95. Nothing new here. I have just installed RedHat Linux on one box =
on a=20
trial basis and so far so good. In fact it's so easy to install I think =
I would=20
rather have Linux than SCO, and may change over in the near =
future.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Now my problem is this. I want to be able to launch =
apps on=20
the Linux or SCO boxes from the windows environment. To achieve this I =
would=20
like to have my Win app create a Telnet session on the server and then =
issue the=20
required commands to initiate reports etc. I have tried to use the =
Winsock=20
control that comes with Visual Basic but when I connect to port 23 on =
the=20
server, it responds with hieroglyphics. Of course if I knew what to =
expect and=20
what Linux expected in return, I could solve the problem. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>So, if you know a systems programmer who has an =
in-depth=20
knowledge of the Telnet protocol, I would be grateful if you could put =
me in=20
touch. I should add that I am not trying to write a complete terminal=20
emulator..just a simple logon ...issue command and=20
logoff. </FONT> </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>The main reason for all this is that I use ODBC =
links via=20
AcuODBC and AcuServer to access very large data files on the server and =
the=20
whole thing is far too slow. If I could run a native AcuCobol =
application under=20
Unix to filter the data and create a temporary table with the result =
set, and=20
then use the ODBC connection on the smaller table, the system would be =
far more=20
responsive. I develop quite a lot of specialised Windows software for =
the firm=20
but have no experience in developing under Unix. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Any help you can offer will be greatly=20
appreciated."</FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>David =
Hughes</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2></FONT><FONT size=3D2>Airlink =
PNG</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>PS : Our AcuCobol system was developed by TABS =
Computer=20
Systems in Adelaide. They are very good at Cobol but unable to help with =
the=20
underlying systems.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>AND For those of you who love to slate Windows. I =
have a dual=20
boot system at home with Win 98 and Linux installed. There is no doubt =
that=20
Linux is fast, but when you run X on Linux, the performance is =
miserable. Ok=20
.You say "Linux is a server operating system and you can't compare =
oranges=20
with bananas", Well... That's just the point I am making. Linux is =
a server=20
system and should not be compared with end user systems. Attempts to do =
so=20
display a lack of understanding or appreciation of the reasons why we =
have=20
different operating systems. I expect that the global end-users =
community will=20
all switch to Linux when X is faster than Win 9x and when they can get=20
WinfaxPro, Word, Kai's Power Goo, and all the other creature comforts =
they now=20
enjoy under Windows. It must be said, in it's favour, that Linux has =
gone much=20
further than any other Unix in giving people what they want, and will =
probably=20
ultimately succeed. Having cut my teeth on macro and Fortran, 25 years =
ago, I am=20
only too happy to use Visual Basic or any other integrated visual =
development=20
environment and will take the plunge when such tools are available on=20
Linux.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>Standing by for the =
onslaught.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV></DIV></BODY></HTML>
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